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Anding of the modern world recommend if you have the stomach to read 200 pages of analysis about misogynists some of the read 200 pages of analysis about misogynists some of the of the men that zuckerberg uotes are really disturbing also sidenote how is this woman the sister of mark zuckerberg i cannot comprehend this I was xcited by the description of this book which xplores the relationship between some works in the classic canon and misogynists on the internet Sadly this book is a 200 page slog that simultaneously takes on too many topics but doesn t pause nough at any of them to make compelling arguments There are 3 major ideas The Business of Family Business explored here Zuckerberg links first the work of the stoics to the general Red Pill community Then shexamines Ovid s Ars Amatoria and how it connects to pick up artist manuals
Finally She Looks At The Story Of she looks at the story of and Hippolytus and Healing Herbs Spices examines how it relates to the way men s rights activists claim that false rape allegations ar Donna Zuckerberg has provided us with a succinct look at the ways the Red Pill community uses the works of Stoic philosophers to justify their worldview The book is accessible I had no issue understanding anything and I came to the book without any knowledge of Stoic philosophy and Zuckerberg is an insightful guide She skillfully illustrates the contradictions of Red Pill arguments that they use little than the intellectual brand name recognition of Marcus Aurelius Ovid and others to provide cover for their concepts of masculinity and gender rolesLongnough to be academically rigorous and informative but short nough that the relatively dry subject matter and writing don t get wearing This book is part of a larger movement among classicists in recent years to combat the misappropriation of classics and ancient works by the alt right It catalogs and responds to some of the ways that the misogynistic red pill online forums misinterpret and twist ancient concepts and ideas to try to legitimize their own ideas Zuckerberg particularly focuses on the way the different factions of the alt right has appealed to Stoicism and Ovid s Ars Amatoria She convincingly shows that what these groups are actually appealing to are merely shallow imitations of classical ideas which bear only a tenous connection specially with Stoicism to actual beliefs in the ancient world Zuckerberg
ALSO ARGUES FOR A INCLUSIVE ANDargues for a inclusive and form of classics that departs from the traditionally conservative nature of the field Overall it is an interesting read that highlights some of the ways classics has been abused to justify hateful ideologies. Ns but is now under siegeDonna Zuckerberg dives deep into the virtual communities of the far right where men lament their loss of power and privilege and strategize about how to reclaim them She finds mixed in with weightlifting tips and misogynistic vitriol the words of the Stoics deployed to support an ideal vision of masculine life On other sites pickup artists uote Ovid's Ars Amatoria to justify ignoring women's boundaries By ,
It s hard to believe that in the late 2010s Harvard University press decided to publish something about the manosphere and how they can t read Seneca or Ovid but here we are The simulation is breaking down The manosphere as it is called is a loose affiliation of anti feminists who gather on Reddit 4chan and other smaller forums Chapter 1 divides them roughly into three groups Men Going Their Own Way MGTOW or separatists Pick Up Artists PUA who try to seduce women and the Men s Rights Movement which is against what they view as womens systemic supremacy in society this is mostly centered on custody trials and false rape accusations Zuckerberg a classicist notes their citation of classics and wrote this book to people who have a passing interest in classics and who understand how bad women have it on the internet in short basically all women on the internet Chapter 2 focuses on the Stoics and how the Manosphere reads Stoicism as an outlet for suppressing motion Chapter 3 is a reading of Ovid s Ars Armoria and a reading of it without context as seduction manual It would be asy nough to show that these people can t really read books their beliefs are hateful and disgusting Zuckerberg does
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Does Recognize Thatis recognize that people are drawn to classics because women really are marginalized and they draw their crude caricatures all over these manuscripts because they view this society as an ideal and often as white as xcavated statues They identify The Classics with all of Western civilization and it is the worst impulses and thoughts within Western civilization that they valueBut of course Classics isn t the only field that is subject to distortion from the far right But Zuckerberg as a classicist sees a responsibility to combat these feelings and to better understand what informs them so Hidden (Otherworld Stories, experts can respond better Best of luck Prescient and thoroughxploration of how the alt right MRA movements co opt and reduce classics to serve their own warped ideas about gender and sexuality warning nerdy classicist review comin up highly recommend this for my classicist and non classicist friends alike it s a great study of how to and why we should navigate feminism in classical studies actually for those who are interested in the classical world but don t know where to start i think this is worth a read than a mary beard book or an introduction to the ancient greeks type of book because it s politically relevant to today and is a perfect Led Astray example of how we can use the greek roman worlds to further our underst. A disturbingxposé of how today's alt right men's groups use ancient sources to promote a new brand of toxic masculinity onlineA virulent strain of antifeminism is thriving online that treats women's mpowerment as a mortal threat to men and to the integrity of Western civilization Its proponents cite ancient Greek and Latin texts to support their claims arguing that they articulate a model of masculinity that sustained generatio. And generally some of the that ancient texts are occasionally by those without a thorough background in classics Zuckerberg book also shows the need to respond and denounce other of misuse of classics such as being used in an attempt to support xenophobic white nationalist or Eurocentric ideologies First I have little interest in Greek or Roman authors thought history and only a passing knowledge of their myths That said I was way into this book as she lifts up the internet rock these toxic grubs have been hiding under and xposes not only their venality and misogyny but there misuse of ancient texts and schools of thought to justify their loathsome beliefs and behaviorWhew That was a long sentence You should go read this 35 stars This book Human Error earnestly tries toxamine and document how alt right men s movements Red Pillers MGTOWers The Game followers Local Online Marketing etc co opt ancient texts to promote specific ideas about the west gender and race and I think insofar as that is the aim this is an interesting book that meets that project s goals That said I wish this had grappled a little bit with basically reader response theory there s a lot ofnergy devoted to determining how faithful or good of a reading of ancient texts these movements have and to some degree that s kind of besides the point It matters how these groups use the texts rather than the authorphilosopher s intent which is acknowledged but does make the overall arguments here a little less impactful Still a thought provoking look at both the modern and ancient movements in uestion A highly disturbing read about white men who appropriate Classics stoicism Ovid and the myth of Phaedra to prove that we live in a gynocentric society biased against
Men And That Autonomous Women Will Be The Downfall Ofand that autonomous women will be the downfall of civilization These assertions justify their vitriolic attacks against women online and their manipulation or sexual assault of women in person Although many feminists are aware of the Red Pill and Pick up Artist communities many may not be aware of the misuse of antiuities Yet Zuckerberg suggests that the political left may inadvertently allow this abuse to occur insofar as the so called Western canon is criticized for its overabundance of rape and gender ineuity Zuckerberg concludes that Both sides of that debate agree that the study of ancient literature perpetuates white male supremacy they differ only on the uestion of whether First class analysis of the Red Pill alt right misogynist community and how it misappropriates the classics to achieve Ppropriating the Classics these men lend a veneer of intellectual authority and ancient wisdom to their project of patriarchal white supremacy In defense or retaliation feminists have also taken up the Classics online to counter the sanctioning of violence against women Not All Dead White Men reveals that some of the most controversial and conseuential debates about the legacy of the ancients are raging not in universities but onli.